“Federal officers can freely stop vehicles for inspection at these checkpoints without any required level of suspicion or justification. That is the law. Most of these checkpoints have separate areas reserved nearby where a vehicle can then be nearly stripped under what is called "secondary inspection". The referral of a vehicle to "secondary inspection" needs only to be "selective" and does not require any "reasonable suspicion".
“It is best if you do not annoy, abuse, alarm, alert, tease, torment, or disturb a Border Patrol Agent at any of these checkpoints.
“Border Patrol Agents cannot and will not take your drivers license away from you. (The federal agent working at a legal Port of Entry can take your driver's license or almost any other documentation away from you.)
“The Border Patrol Agent will engage you in "consensual conversation". "Consensual conversation" is not interrogation. Consensual conversation is ... conversation.
"Good morning, how are you, that's a nice gun you have in your pocket", are all simply one side of a consensual conversation, but in polite society they do require that you make some verbal response.
“While the Agent is having this consensual conversation with you you are -- essentially -- detained. You and your vehicle cannot leave. It is very important that you do not attempt to leave.
“Leaving the Agent without his permission will almost certainly be met with what is called in the vernacular of the profession a "Dynamic Apprehension". We civilians might call it ….. a chase and a tackle.
“The problem with a Dynamic Apprehension is that one or more of you will fall to the ground and or bounce off of various hard objects like walls, cars, the sidewalk or rocks and bushes if perpetrated in more suburban areas.
“This fall almost certainly will be with you -- the illegal / the uncooperative -- on the bottom and with the usually larger more athletically inclined Agent on top. If somehow you wind up on top then things can get very energetic and the mysteries of your life may be found in your autopsy report.”
from an unofficial us borderpatrol web site http://www.usborderpatrol.com look under being detained.
i have to drive through one of these checkpoints to get from my house (IN THE U.S.A.) to the next large town, i.e. tucson.
back to the good old days, dj irene
Thursday, June 07, 2007
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I see no problem with this.
Border Patrol: "Excuse me, are you transporting any illegal drugs, weapons, criminals, terrorists, dead bodies, nuclear devices or kidnapping victims?"
MS13 gangmember entering U.S.: "No."
Border Patrol: "OK, have a nice day. Hope I wasn't too oppressive."
Thats how it was when I worked as Federal Security Screener at the airport. Customer service always came before actual security, it was a damn joke. The cops we actually worked with were cool, they didnt give a damn who they pissed off, they had no problem treating a passenger like shit. We could never get away with it though, we had to treat airline passengers like gold.
one would think that there would be a way to balance the two objectives. treat people like people AND keep our people safe.
Yeah, the TSA is a trainwreck.
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