---Last night I got in a rather heated argument with a certain friend of mine over who he thought were the greatest punk bands of all time were. Im not talking second generation shit either, Im talking roots, way back in the day from say 1976 to 1980.
Heres my top 3 in NO special order
The Clash
The Ramones
and of course the mighty Social D.
Bands like that changed the way we look at music today.
Thursday, November 01, 2007
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"Bands like that changed the way we look at music today" Is a rather broad statement. Changed it sure but for the better? I see a lot of POP music today that touts its roots in great bands like The Clash, and The Ramones. I am just not sure it is such a great thing. Also I must really disagree that even though I really like Social D, I would never put them on the same pedestal as The Clash, and The Ramones. I suspect that record sales alone put the latter in a different tax bracket alone.
However in the end I find all of this to be purely subjective. The best bands are for me the ones I still continue to listen to till this day. As far as punk goes for me, its all about the Chicago scene, because back in 1979 when the Clash was a really cutting edge punk band I was still in grade school listening to my dads collection of Willy Nelson. Bands like Naked Raygun, Big Black, and old Ministry. are my most influential punk bands... then there are all of the other categories, industrial, synth pop, etc...
Yeah, I see your point there Scott. I just look at The Ramones as the Godfathers of punk rock, I mean, afterall, they created the sound, no one can argue that.
The Clash has influenced so many other bands its not even funny.
And IMO I think Social D. is, by far, the greatest living punk band who is still out there, touring their asses off and making outstanding records.
as in changed music as we know it today as being a good thing is what I meant. These bands were pioneers, they didnt like what they saw and felt at their time, so they made something new and changed it.
Fuck, an ENTIRELY new sound was created by The Ramones, the Clash were a very political band, a lot of their songs had meaning behind them and Social D. put the SO. Cali punk scene on the map, something which at the time, didnt exist.
Of course while all this was being created I was just a kid, Im not claiming to have been there, but those bands heavily influence my life today. They help me to stay young in my attitude, they give my daughter the chance to experience such a unique sound and they have helped to inspire me out of the gutter countless time.
Joe Strummer, Joey Ramone and Mike Ness are my modern day heroes
Those are ground breakers to me, pioneers.
I would rather listen to Led Zepplin Backwards then the Ramones. I get that they were ground braking and blah, blah, blah. but I don't really care for them.
I like The Clash. a fair amount.
I cut my punk rock teeth listening to the Suicidal Tendencies, the Decendants, The Dead Milkmen, and the Dead Kennedys.
Top 3 hmmmm,
Raygun should be there, Big Black, Ministry.
it's like trying to decide which hand to jerk off with. whatever gets the job done for that days mood.....
Don't forget the Sex Pistols. they changed the face of music as well.
Iggy Pop.
remember skating in the parking garage on Piper Lane to ST?
oh, yea
so, none of you listed bands from the 1st generation of punk, youre no fun.
here is a little known fact about Mr. Iggy. The first live show he ever saw was a Doors concert and seeing Morrison on stage was what inspired him to become a musician.
and for the record, I was not trying to put social d in the same group as the clash and the ramones. in fact when i met mike ness last spring, he told me his 3 biggest musical influences were the clash, johnny cash and the rolling stones.
The Ramones first tour of the UK, in 76, I think, was seen by members of the Clash and the Pistols, thus giving them the inspiration to go out and start bands on their own.
Here ya go:
The Ramones' first British concert was held on July 4, 1976. Prior to the performance, the band hung out with fans who turned out to be members of the Sex Pistols and The Clash. During the meeting Paul Simonon claimed The Clash had not played a show yet because they felt they weren't good enough, to which Johnny Ramone responded, "We stink. You don't have to be good, just get out there and play".[52] Later that day The Clash would play their first show.[53] Likewise another band who met with the Ramones that day, The Damned, played their first show 2 days later.[54][55]
Similarly, early Ramones concerts in California inspired early California punk groups like Black Flag, the Dead Kennedys[56], Bad Religion[57], and Social Distortion
nice trivia:
dig this link
http://www.sonyclassics.com/americanhardcore/
thanks PJB, they worded it a lot better than I could have....
Bike shop is looking good.
good link. even though im not a fan of hardcore anymore, id still go check it out, but it'll never come to Iowa....I am quite curious to see how the early hardcore thought of punk rock, because afterall, they are 2 diff. things...
When I grow up, gonna be a star
Gonna sing my songs and play my guitar, I’m ready
Gonna change the world, gonna turn the page
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I realize that in your eyes you got ideas
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Here comes the new generation
Hope they feel and fight the same way as we did
We’re going down, down to the streets below
Cause I wasn’t born, I wasn’t born to follow no
When I grow up, gonna be a star
Gonna sing my songs and play my guitar, I’m ready
Gonna change the world, gonna turn the page
Gonna say what I feel, let out this rage, get ready
We’re going down, down to the streets below
Cause don’t you know, I wasn’t born to follow
We’re going down, down to the streets below
Cause don’t you know, I wasn’t born to follow
We’re going down, down, down, down
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I said goodbye to the masses, I wasn’t born to follow
just for posterity i like to think off pink floyd, david bowie and the sex pistols as great early "punk" influences
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